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PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 7:42:20 PM)
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 7:47:26 PM)
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PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 7:47:43 PM)
Good evening.
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 7:48:17 PM)
Hello. I am new.
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 7:48:49 PM)
Welcome, You affected with MMD?
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 7:49:32 PM)
Thank you. My twelve year old son was just diagnosed.
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 7:49:41 PM)
We are starting a little slow for some reason.
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 7:49:58 PM)
Sorry to hear about him.
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 7:50:28 PM)
that is fine. I think I am early. We live in Puerto Rico. There is little support here that I know of so far.
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 7:51:13 PM)
Glad to have you. Actually we start at 15 min till.
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 7:51:27 PM)
Do you have MMD?
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 7:51:48 PM)
No, I was a care giver.
paper (Mar 10, 2010 7:52:06 PM)
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PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 7:52:15 PM)
Been at this for quite a while.
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 7:52:27 PM)
Hey paper,
paper (Mar 10, 2010 7:52:32 PM)
hi all
paper (Mar 10, 2010 7:53:01 PM)
hi jbp i dont think we have meet
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 7:53:11 PM)
Could use advice from anyone with experience. No specialists have given me any suggstions yet.
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 7:53:28 PM)
JBP is new to our group.
paper (Mar 10, 2010 7:53:33 PM)
thats why we are here shot whats the qu
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 7:53:42 PM)
Maybe we can help.
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 7:53:48 PM)
Nice to meet you paper
paper (Mar 10, 2010 7:54:00 PM)
nice to meet u too
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 7:55:22 PM)
I will try to answer your questions. Just fire away.
sweetheaven (Mar 10, 2010 7:56:08 PM)
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paper (Mar 10, 2010 7:56:18 PM)
hey sweets
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 7:56:25 PM)
Hey Sweet
sweetheaven (Mar 10, 2010 7:56:26 PM)
hello paper
sweetheaven (Mar 10, 2010 7:56:29 PM)
hey ray
paper (Mar 10, 2010 7:56:30 PM)
how are u
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 7:56:39 PM)
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sweetheaven (Mar 10, 2010 7:56:40 PM)
I am ok thanks
paper (Mar 10, 2010 7:56:45 PM)
hi red
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 7:56:59 PM)
howdy all
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 7:57:04 PM)
We have been told that our son has congenital MMD. It was not diagnosed as an infant. He is adopted, but has been with us since he was 6 weeks old. Recently his speech has deteriorated (articulation). He has apnea. He is tired and weak. Is there anything we can do therapeutically?
paper (Mar 10, 2010 7:57:39 PM)
speach ot and pt theraphy
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 7:57:40 PM)
Hi Red. JPB is new with us.
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 7:58:04 PM)
well, to help my breathing, baklance and to a leser extent , strength...I od Tai Ch'i
paper (Mar 10, 2010 7:58:04 PM)
do u take him to a mda clinic?
sweetheaven (Mar 10, 2010 7:58:23 PM)
Sorry I haven't been on in awhile Paper
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 7:58:26 PM)
obviously cant type tomite
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 7:58:35 PM)
tonite
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 7:58:37 PM)
Sleep Apnea is somewhat common with MMD.
paper (Mar 10, 2010 7:58:42 PM)
thats ok i have been on much eather
sweetheaven (Mar 10, 2010 7:58:42 PM)
hello Rad
sweetheaven (Mar 10, 2010 7:58:49 PM)
red
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 7:58:56 PM)
yep had both C-PAP and BI-PAP here
paper (Mar 10, 2010 7:58:57 PM)
sleep apnea is common with all md
sweetheaven (Mar 10, 2010 7:59:03 PM)
the pain has been so bad
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 7:59:04 PM)
pt? is that physical therapy? He would like Tai Chí. He does a little yoga. We have an appointment at a local MDA clinic next week.
sweetheaven (Mar 10, 2010 7:59:12 PM)
my hubby has that
paper (Mar 10, 2010 7:59:23 PM)
yes jbp
paper (Mar 10, 2010 7:59:32 PM)
does he swimm
paper (Mar 10, 2010 7:59:41 PM)
swimming is great for md
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 7:59:46 PM)
Yes. Is swimming helpful?
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 7:59:47 PM)
I could never swim
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 8:00:02 PM)
Why does swimming help?
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 8:00:05 PM)
CPaps and BiPaps are used for inadvasive breathing aids.
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:00:16 PM)
hardest skill award for me to get in Boy Scouts
paper (Mar 10, 2010 8:00:28 PM)
less strain on muscles and still promots movement
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:00:41 PM)
thank god the swimming merit badge wasn't mandatory
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 8:01:00 PM)
Are there exercises or activities he should avoid?
paper (Mar 10, 2010 8:01:13 PM)
anything that builds muscle
paper (Mar 10, 2010 8:01:29 PM)
no weight lifting
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:01:31 PM)
not really imo, whatever he is able to do...he should do
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:01:44 PM)
I still lift weights
paper (Mar 10, 2010 8:02:01 PM)
really they allways tell me not to lol
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 8:02:04 PM)
Just has to be careful to not over do the exercising.
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:02:18 PM)
no where near what I used to lift though
sweetheaven (Mar 10, 2010 8:02:28 PM)
will that is kinda too late paper
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:02:43 PM)
if he is able walking has helped me
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 8:02:52 PM)
What can we expect down the line? Joseph is 12, but his apea (severe) started when he was in 1st grade. They just didn't connect the dots with MMD
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 8:03:01 PM)
As young as your son is he will probably be able to build up his muscles.
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:03:58 PM)
especially at his age with the whole puberty thing and his body changing...muscle building would be a good idea probably
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 8:04:59 PM)
What about gastrointestinal difficulties. Any advice on that front. I feel guilty asking so many questions. But you are the first people to be willing to help. Thank you so much
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:05:28 PM)
I was diagnosed in my early 30s, and I worked out rligiously from the time I was 13 up till my mid 20s
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 8:05:55 PM)
That is encouraging.
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:06:00 PM)
only GI prob I have is the diarhea.
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 8:06:34 PM)
Chewing and gastro problems are common with MMD.
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:06:35 PM)
usually rigger by one of 3 things...Too much dairy, Mountain Dew, Sierra Mist
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:06:51 PM)
trigger, not rigger
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:07:15 PM)
swallowing is a problem for me PaRay
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 8:07:17 PM)
A gastro dr may be able to help him.
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:07:29 PM)
gotten better though
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 8:07:42 PM)
There are several meds that are used also.
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 8:07:48 PM)
Joseph has been vomiting through his nose and sometimes food gets lodged in his nasal cavity and he can't seem to get it out. Kinda scary.
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:08:04 PM)
sounds it
paper (Mar 10, 2010 8:08:06 PM)
becarefull of that
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 8:08:21 PM)
What can we do?
paper (Mar 10, 2010 8:08:21 PM)
do you still have one them baby nose suckers
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 8:08:37 PM)
You have that right. You have to be careful that he does not aspirate.
sweetheaven (Mar 10, 2010 8:08:55 PM)
that would work
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 8:09:12 PM)
No, I guess I should get one. Aspiration is what I am afraid of. We have been encouraging him to chew carefully.
paper (Mar 10, 2010 8:09:26 PM)
it will work for now it you can get a dr to get you a suction machine
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 8:09:45 PM)
Have to cut his food into small bites.
paper (Mar 10, 2010 8:09:46 PM)
till even
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 8:09:58 PM)
So we should add gastroenterologist to our list of specialists?
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 8:10:07 PM)
Yes
paper (Mar 10, 2010 8:10:09 PM)
yes
sweetheaven (Mar 10, 2010 8:10:09 PM)
or a frist aid squade they can get you one until you get your own
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:10:25 PM)
jeez, all I see is a neorologist
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:10:36 PM)
I feel bad
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 8:10:53 PM)
Red you need professional care. LOL
paper (Mar 10, 2010 8:10:56 PM)
i see heart lung ent mda
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:11:02 PM)
hah!
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 8:11:20 PM)
So many body systems affected, it is a bit overwhelming. How do caregivers deal with the emotions of this? And help their family members with the same?
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 8:11:38 PM)
Have you checked for and MDA clinic in your areal
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:11:40 PM)
well, i see a dermatologist too, not related to the MD, but the only other specialist I see
paper (Mar 10, 2010 8:11:40 PM)
they come in here and gripe lol
paper (Mar 10, 2010 8:12:14 PM)
local support groups and online groups
sweetheaven (Mar 10, 2010 8:12:15 PM)
who paper
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:12:17 PM)
I know, also can cuse some mental ilnesses...my depression is most likely related to my MD
paper (Mar 10, 2010 8:12:24 PM)
we all do sweets
paper (Mar 10, 2010 8:12:26 PM)
heheh
paper (Mar 10, 2010 8:12:31 PM)
even me lol
sweetheaven (Mar 10, 2010 8:12:41 PM)
huh i am lost i walked away
paper (Mar 10, 2010 8:12:47 PM)
lol
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:13:12 PM)
:)
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 8:13:19 PM)
jbp ... We email chat reminders each week and also we would like to mail you are welcoming pack. If you would like reminders, send your email address to MDAASGchat@aol.com …If you would like the welcoming pack include your name and postal address.
sweetheaven (Mar 10, 2010 8:13:51 PM)
i gave you mine right Ray
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 8:13:56 PM)
There is a clinic here but we haven't gone yet. Thanks for the welcome pack. I will send an email.
snaped (Mar 10, 2010 8:14:13 PM)
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paper (Mar 10, 2010 8:14:19 PM)
hi snapped
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:14:21 PM)
hiya snap
sweetheaven (Mar 10, 2010 8:14:23 PM)
hello snap
snaped (Mar 10, 2010 8:14:27 PM)
hello all
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 8:14:35 PM)
Sweet Do you get the chat reminders?
sweetheaven (Mar 10, 2010 8:14:54 PM)
yeah i think i do lol
sweetheaven (Mar 10, 2010 8:14:57 PM)
not sure
sweetheaven (Mar 10, 2010 8:15:00 PM)
:)
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:15:22 PM)
good movie on right now...Four Brothers
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:15:40 PM)
modern day version of The Sons of Katie Elder
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:16:01 PM)
more or less
paper (Mar 10, 2010 8:16:04 PM)
L has to get a thingy that he has to wear in his mouth at night to help the muscle weakness in his jaw
snaped (Mar 10, 2010 8:16:19 PM)
Fluffy is watching Archer from FX...very funny
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:16:34 PM)
Archer is a trip
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 8:16:40 PM)
How does that work? The mouth thingy?
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:16:51 PM)
couldn't sleep with something in my mouth paper
paper (Mar 10, 2010 8:16:59 PM)
snap are u and fluffy comming to stride and ride at carmel on the 24th of april?
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 8:16:59 PM)
jbp .. Do you realize that in a couple of days the trancsript of this chat will be posted on the MDA site that you used to sign in.
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 8:17:31 PM)
No. How does that work?
snaped (Mar 10, 2010 8:17:47 PM)
I'm not aware of stride & ride
paper (Mar 10, 2010 8:18:01 PM)
it is a mda fund raiser
sweetheaven (Mar 10, 2010 8:18:35 PM)
i signed up to for that
snaped (Mar 10, 2010 8:18:46 PM)
Been working like crazy ,I'll check but she has not said any thing about it
paper (Mar 10, 2010 8:18:47 PM)
i hope u and fluffy can come i would love to meet u
paper (Mar 10, 2010 8:19:13 PM)
have her call ashley at mda indy
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:19:21 PM)
wish i had a way to get to California...some of these events sound fun'
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 8:19:36 PM)
Where are you all living?
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:19:45 PM)
Rochester, NY
paper (Mar 10, 2010 8:19:48 PM)
i am in south east indiana
sweetheaven (Mar 10, 2010 8:19:55 PM)
nj
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 8:20:00 PM)
Lancaster, PA
sweetheaven (Mar 10, 2010 8:20:15 PM)
Ocean Gate NJ
snaped (Mar 10, 2010 8:20:35 PM)
Indianapolis here,And Paper I will be working so Fluffy probably won't go
paper (Mar 10, 2010 8:20:50 PM)
thats to bad
sweetheaven (Mar 10, 2010 8:21:29 PM)
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snaped (Mar 10, 2010 8:21:39 PM)
maybe when the Post office closes on Saturdays I can do things on the weekends
paper (Mar 10, 2010 8:22:02 PM)
so they are really going to do that
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:22:05 PM)
looking forward to tuesday
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 8:22:19 PM)
Is there therapy to strengthen muscles used for speaking and eating?
snaped (Mar 10, 2010 8:22:21 PM)
50/50 chances
paper (Mar 10, 2010 8:22:45 PM)
yes my girl went throught it ,it helped a lot
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:22:49 PM)
not that i am aware of jbp, but there probably is
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 8:22:51 PM)
Yes You should see a speech pathologist.
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:23:28 PM)
do any of you have a malaclusion (open bite)?
paper (Mar 10, 2010 8:23:44 PM)
nope
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 8:23:47 PM)
More of a method of using the speech muscles.
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:24:09 PM)
just curious..I do, and a higher than normal palate
paper (Mar 10, 2010 8:24:18 PM)
well all i think i am going to bed my meds are kicking my butt
paper (Mar 10, 2010 8:24:28 PM)
night all
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:24:30 PM)
I cannot whistle :(
paper (Mar 10, 2010 8:24:35 PM)
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REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:24:36 PM)
g'nite
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 8:24:38 PM)
And some breathing exercises.
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 8:25:02 PM)
Joseph has a high palate and occlusion issues. They thought that was the source of his apnea and almost operated. Now we learn that would have been a big mistake.
snaped (Mar 10, 2010 8:25:24 PM)
Fluffy was fitted for an "appliance" but it was really uncomfortable...It really helped her speach but she only used it a month or less
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 8:25:34 PM)
Snapped ... Are you aware of the MMD support group in your area?
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:25:46 PM)
I was gonna have surgery on my jaw back when i was 19 to correct the occlusion, but I decide against it
snaped (Mar 10, 2010 8:25:53 PM)
Yes ,I hear there is a meeting this sat
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 8:26:41 PM)
Redheader. Good thing you didn't go through with it from what I understand.
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:27:14 PM)
well, at the time I was unaware I had MMD, but there were other factors involved in my decision
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 8:27:51 PM)
Joseph can't whistle either. I never imagined this was why.
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:28:20 PM)
I can kinda whitle through my teeth, but thats it
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 8:28:49 PM)
How long have you known about your mmd redheader?
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:29:15 PM)
was diagnosed back in '97 I thinks, so about 13 yrs
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 8:29:15 PM)
Red Do you think it is caused by a lack of air volume?
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:29:23 PM)
perhaps
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:29:35 PM)
and the weak tongue
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 8:29:42 PM)
Joseph can't blow up a balloon.
snaped (Mar 10, 2010 8:29:49 PM)
JBP-I get yelled at when I whistle for the cats....Fluffy (my wife) has MMD and can't whistle either
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:29:59 PM)
which is weird...because I can roll my tongue
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:30:59 PM)
I took a pft and my lungs are only working at 87% capavity if i remember correctly
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 8:31:13 PM)
I trained a cat one time to come when I whistled for him.
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:31:44 PM)
I try to whistle the theme to Kolchal: The Night Stalker and she usually comes
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 8:31:44 PM)
Redheader, have you gotten progressively worse. Is there a way to stabilize symptoms?
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 8:32:26 PM)
Everyone progresses at different rates.
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:32:35 PM)
I have gotten worse, only stabalization I know of is to keep using yer muscles as much as posssible to slow down futher muscular atrophy
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:33:04 PM)
I use a cane, my sister is now in a wheelchair
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 8:33:10 PM)
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REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:33:35 PM)
of course she is older, and never was as active physically as I was
snaped (Mar 10, 2010 8:33:48 PM)
OMG...Kolchal was my of my favorite shows and that was some spooky tune
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:34:11 PM)
Dr. Thornton thinks the reason my MMD is mild still is because I was so physically active when I was younger
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:34:41 PM)
have both movies and the whole series on DVD snaped ")
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:34:47 PM)
:)
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 8:35:11 PM)
We would all be better off if we were more active.
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:35:49 PM)
I try to walk.. and I do Tai Chi every day, but I sit in front of my computer a lot too...the curse of being a gamer
snaped (Mar 10, 2010 8:36:00 PM)
unfortunatly Fluffs Dr told her :"it wouldnt hurt or help" and she basically gave up on exersise
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:36:50 PM)
I am just trying to drop some weight
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:37:01 PM)
wanna get back down to 200
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 8:37:22 PM)
Keep after it Red.
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 8:37:34 PM)
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REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:37:35 PM)
do my best PaRay
snaped (Mar 10, 2010 8:37:48 PM)
Man,I bet it's tough to lose weight and keep healthy.
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:37:57 PM)
yeah, it is
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 8:37:59 PM)
My weight is OK. I am just a couple of feet short.
snaped (Mar 10, 2010 8:38:09 PM)
lol
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:38:20 PM)
your not overweight...your undertall
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 8:38:38 PM)
You are catching on.
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:38:45 PM)
I am in shape...round is a shape, right?
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 8:38:56 PM)
I hope so.
snaped (Mar 10, 2010 8:39:00 PM)
why yes it is
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:39:15 PM)
and lastly, I am not going bald...I am just getting too tall for my hair
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 8:39:52 PM)
Just jump in jbp
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 8:40:09 PM)
Just enjoying the humor.
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 8:40:27 PM)
Just us guys now trying to outsmart eachother.
snaped (Mar 10, 2010 8:40:31 PM)
theres another one.....I'm getting more head
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:40:40 PM)
thank you...sometime people say my sense of humor lacks sense...and humor
snaped (Mar 10, 2010 8:40:49 PM)
the bald thing
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 8:40:53 PM)
LOL
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:41:09 PM)
God only made so many perfect heads...the rest he covered with hair
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:41:30 PM)
its not a bald spot..its a solar panel for a love machine
snaped (Mar 10, 2010 8:41:37 PM)
only half perfect then :(
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:42:07 PM)
I got the cue ball thing going..get my head shaved
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:42:29 PM)
not enough hair to worry about otherwise
snaped (Mar 10, 2010 8:42:49 PM)
I just shaved my beard
snaped (Mar 10, 2010 8:42:59 PM)
i feal naked
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:43:16 PM)
just got my beard and mustache to worry about...and I keep them trimmed
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 8:43:22 PM)
Never had a berd.
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:43:39 PM)
had a mustache since I was 15
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 8:43:45 PM)
Or a beard either!!!!!
snaped (Mar 10, 2010 8:44:01 PM)
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30674909&id=1458103326
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:44:03 PM)
typo attack
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 8:44:38 PM)
I like you pointed ears.
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 8:45:14 PM)
Thanks everybody. I appreciated the laughs. My young daughter is calling, so I'll have to say good night.
snaped (Mar 10, 2010 8:45:24 PM)
gn!
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 8:45:31 PM)
Catch you next week.
REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:45:43 PM)
night
jbp (Mar 10, 2010 8:45:56 PM)
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REDHEADER (Mar 10, 2010 8:46:26 PM)
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snaped (Mar 10, 2010 8:46:40 PM)
well
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 8:47:09 PM)
I think that I will take a long winters nap. Later.
snaped (Mar 10, 2010 8:47:21 PM)
good night then
PaRay (Mar 10, 2010 8:47:25 PM)
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